http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/06/13/speaker-at-orlando-area-mosque-said-gay-people-must-be-killed-out-of-compassion/
Hatred for a group is not a good though for any religion, or atheist either. These are people who are at the extremes of the normal distribution for sexual attraction. Hatred is not the proper response. They should be allowed to live out there lives as any one else should be. You religious could be persecuted because of your idiot beliefs, or we atheist for not believing your idiot belief systems. If we are a free society, all those who promote these radical hatred view should be all locked in a room together with guns, and the last survivor jailed.
Monday, June 13, 2016
Sunday, June 12, 2016
There are Crazies
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gunman-opens-fire-orlando-gay-club-report-article-1.2670322
The LGBT are the ends of the normal distribution of the population - sexual attraction curve. They exist, and for no reason. We all exist for no reason, we just do. They are the extremes, should be allowed to live out there lives in peace, just like the religious nuts who have been trained to be idiots and believe blindly that there are god's, that any long dead book on how to live applies today. That is not to say none of them are right; even a stopped watch is right twice a day. We need to sort it all, and throw away all the garbage and that which is not common to most rational books on how to live and be a great human.
The danger from LGBT community is that they glorify the ends of the normal distribution, and draw marginal people on the normal distribution curve into the LGBT fold. Oh well, there are too many people anyway.
It is the strong hatred of a group that is not right, as is the belief that anyone's thoughts and religious beliefs are right and should be imposed on others. There is no gods. There is not after live, no permanent soul. The self is largely an illusion. Free will is limited to those thing in our control and complete ownership, beliefs, opinions, decisions, desires and the like. We are all just transient organisms doing our alive time on this big rock falling toward the sun. It does not matter, we all die in the end.
The LGBT are the ends of the normal distribution of the population - sexual attraction curve. They exist, and for no reason. We all exist for no reason, we just do. They are the extremes, should be allowed to live out there lives in peace, just like the religious nuts who have been trained to be idiots and believe blindly that there are god's, that any long dead book on how to live applies today. That is not to say none of them are right; even a stopped watch is right twice a day. We need to sort it all, and throw away all the garbage and that which is not common to most rational books on how to live and be a great human.
The danger from LGBT community is that they glorify the ends of the normal distribution, and draw marginal people on the normal distribution curve into the LGBT fold. Oh well, there are too many people anyway.
It is the strong hatred of a group that is not right, as is the belief that anyone's thoughts and religious beliefs are right and should be imposed on others. There is no gods. There is not after live, no permanent soul. The self is largely an illusion. Free will is limited to those thing in our control and complete ownership, beliefs, opinions, decisions, desires and the like. We are all just transient organisms doing our alive time on this big rock falling toward the sun. It does not matter, we all die in the end.
Friday, June 10, 2016
Evidence
When we look at physical evidence, an explanation for the evidence must be true. There must be at least one explanation, but it is possible to have more than one. "God did it" is not an explanation of anything but a misdirection. Lack of evidence is not proof of "no act" but it is an indication. After a bunch of no evidence, it is time to start looking elsewhere for a explanation.
So there was a opening between the ice shears 13000 years ago, and the buffalo started to move through the north south corridor again. The corridor was blocked for 1500 years, so man could have walked to North America before the corridor closed before 14500 years ago. Oh well, the bison certainly did, and the Clovis likely followed the buffalo much of the year. (Clovis, New Mexico as the first place evidence was found) So our natives got here the old fashioned way, they walked, possible following a buffalo herd. Faith that that the world would supply what they needed to survive would have stopped them; they need to keep searching for food to keep up to the heard. The crows and ravens led them, a raven can find a dead thing from considerable distance.
The lack of evidence for the existence of god is enough reason to stop even considering the existence, and along with that goes much of what religion is promoting. A soul, aka a life after death, is real poppy cock although it is appealing. Impermanence is one of the foundations of Buddhism, and yet they promote rebirth and karma onto the future rebirths. He said it was not the same, but never explained it. He also said that we each need to make peace with that and the gods, and yet so much of his teachings are obviously true in many forms. If it can be demonstrated but not proven, then it is better than no evidence. Oh well, some things that can be "demonstrated" are not what we think they are but illusions and delusions.
After the inability to develop evidence to prove a concept, science usually moves on. If some contrary evidence is found, often the disproof of a pet theory is just shrugged of with a duh type realization. Of course, it is obvious. It is like time. It is now defined by what we can measure, not what it likely is. Atomic vibration rate is effected by gravity, but is time in reality? So is the red shift really expansion or a low gravity effect on light vibration frequency?
So there was a opening between the ice shears 13000 years ago, and the buffalo started to move through the north south corridor again. The corridor was blocked for 1500 years, so man could have walked to North America before the corridor closed before 14500 years ago. Oh well, the bison certainly did, and the Clovis likely followed the buffalo much of the year. (Clovis, New Mexico as the first place evidence was found) So our natives got here the old fashioned way, they walked, possible following a buffalo herd. Faith that that the world would supply what they needed to survive would have stopped them; they need to keep searching for food to keep up to the heard. The crows and ravens led them, a raven can find a dead thing from considerable distance.
The lack of evidence for the existence of god is enough reason to stop even considering the existence, and along with that goes much of what religion is promoting. A soul, aka a life after death, is real poppy cock although it is appealing. Impermanence is one of the foundations of Buddhism, and yet they promote rebirth and karma onto the future rebirths. He said it was not the same, but never explained it. He also said that we each need to make peace with that and the gods, and yet so much of his teachings are obviously true in many forms. If it can be demonstrated but not proven, then it is better than no evidence. Oh well, some things that can be "demonstrated" are not what we think they are but illusions and delusions.
After the inability to develop evidence to prove a concept, science usually moves on. If some contrary evidence is found, often the disproof of a pet theory is just shrugged of with a duh type realization. Of course, it is obvious. It is like time. It is now defined by what we can measure, not what it likely is. Atomic vibration rate is effected by gravity, but is time in reality? So is the red shift really expansion or a low gravity effect on light vibration frequency?
Monday, May 16, 2016
It's Called What? Human Delta Effects...
What is in a name? When a name cares with it a bunch of negative baggage, is it better to live with the name that is likely recognized, or to move on to a new, better name?
We, the beautiful too many... Greg Brown perhaps...
As you likely know, I have become an atheist, yet I do not like the name. I do not like to be against anything, and in fact, I, the singular being, do not care what you actually believe, but only about what is true. You can believe what ever shit you want, as long as you do not try to preach what is wrong.
So how can I say that there is no god? Well, if we want to debate this at the science level of proof, what evidence is there for a god? None, only belief and stories, feelings, and suggestion. Lack of evidence is not proof of non existence, but it is a good indication. So when there is actual proof, I may believe, but until there is proof, I will not believe; and therefore I live god free. Realists, god free or godfree is a much better name that atheist.
Now on to the other big misnomer that is causing problems, "Climate change". Climates are always changing, but it is man's impact on climate that is of concern, and not just man's impact, but man's negative impact on living conditions, both now and for the future. We are drying out the surface of Alberta, south of fifty four degrees, and in the Peace district. This makes farming and living better with respect to available land, but we are draining off fossil water, and as a result interrupting the interior water cycle, that is summer evaporation and thunder storm rainfall. That is what crops and gardens need, rain. That is the real problem, not warmer temperatures.
But then the Co2 goes up, causing ocean acidification. That kills of lots of thing, but most importantly plankton, and other autotrophs that use sunlight to fix carbon, and lower Co2. The solar energy goes to heat water now, which make the problem worse. Climate is fragile, and varying; we humans have pusher climate over the knife edge, and the result will not be pleasant. Cooling is typically the result of particles in the atmosphere, and we are much more effective at cleaning the air out then reducing Co2. Old coal fired and wood smoke produced both articles(cooling) and Co2(warming) effects in the atmosphere. Oh well, I am old now. It will be the young's problem, even if it is our fault. Oh well. But the problem is made worse by the name. Rather than climate change we should call it some more descriptive like man's impact on climate, or the delta effect on climate. I have not yet found a good man made name yet. Oh well.
We, the beautiful too many... Greg Brown perhaps...
As you likely know, I have become an atheist, yet I do not like the name. I do not like to be against anything, and in fact, I, the singular being, do not care what you actually believe, but only about what is true. You can believe what ever shit you want, as long as you do not try to preach what is wrong.
So how can I say that there is no god? Well, if we want to debate this at the science level of proof, what evidence is there for a god? None, only belief and stories, feelings, and suggestion. Lack of evidence is not proof of non existence, but it is a good indication. So when there is actual proof, I may believe, but until there is proof, I will not believe; and therefore I live god free. Realists, god free or godfree is a much better name that atheist.
Now on to the other big misnomer that is causing problems, "Climate change". Climates are always changing, but it is man's impact on climate that is of concern, and not just man's impact, but man's negative impact on living conditions, both now and for the future. We are drying out the surface of Alberta, south of fifty four degrees, and in the Peace district. This makes farming and living better with respect to available land, but we are draining off fossil water, and as a result interrupting the interior water cycle, that is summer evaporation and thunder storm rainfall. That is what crops and gardens need, rain. That is the real problem, not warmer temperatures.
But then the Co2 goes up, causing ocean acidification. That kills of lots of thing, but most importantly plankton, and other autotrophs that use sunlight to fix carbon, and lower Co2. The solar energy goes to heat water now, which make the problem worse. Climate is fragile, and varying; we humans have pusher climate over the knife edge, and the result will not be pleasant. Cooling is typically the result of particles in the atmosphere, and we are much more effective at cleaning the air out then reducing Co2. Old coal fired and wood smoke produced both articles(cooling) and Co2(warming) effects in the atmosphere. Oh well, I am old now. It will be the young's problem, even if it is our fault. Oh well. But the problem is made worse by the name. Rather than climate change we should call it some more descriptive like man's impact on climate, or the delta effect on climate. I have not yet found a good man made name yet. Oh well.
Saturday, May 7, 2016
Fort McMurry, Be aware of Sham Aid Collectors.
I was getting a bit of gas yesterday, and a young fellow with a home made sign came up collecting for "Fort McMurry fire victums." I have seen this kid around, always collecting for something. Do you really expect me to believe this kid is that big into charity?
Just like the fake Salvation army Christmas stands.
Or the funding business, that fund charities, and pay their people well. How is one to decide what is legitimate?
Or the food bank collection box that get emptied out and put back on the shelf. I have seen that happen in two separate grocery stores. Oh well.
Now I am not saying to not give, but do so through recognized charities. All that is given is not much in the total picture, and it is mainly so that the giver feels better about having done something anyway. Much of the given is siphoned off as cost of support anyway. There are many parasite floating around all disasters. All you need to do is know a few of them to realize this. Oh well, now I am retired and no longer do any work for a few insurance companies.
But what do I know?
Just like the fake Salvation army Christmas stands.
Or the funding business, that fund charities, and pay their people well. How is one to decide what is legitimate?
Or the food bank collection box that get emptied out and put back on the shelf. I have seen that happen in two separate grocery stores. Oh well.
Now I am not saying to not give, but do so through recognized charities. All that is given is not much in the total picture, and it is mainly so that the giver feels better about having done something anyway. Much of the given is siphoned off as cost of support anyway. There are many parasite floating around all disasters. All you need to do is know a few of them to realize this. Oh well, now I am retired and no longer do any work for a few insurance companies.
But what do I know?
Socrates pegged it
“God commands it.” makes any evil act a positive.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/alethianworldview/2016/05/07/the-name-is-not-the-problem/
Socrates got many things right. One was "man does not do wrong things against his will" or the like. There are so many similar quotes that finding the best is just an effort. It is all about always doing good, not just thinking that we are doing good.
Plato's account of the trial, 28a: he ought only to consider whether in doing anything he is doing right or wrong — acting the part of a good man or a bad.
So if someone tells us to do something, and also represents god, and we believe in god, we are likely to do it. God was likely created to control the masses. Created by evil or good people, but either way it was for control. It is still being used for control today. By telling someone it is good to follow the direction of god and god directs what we know to be evil behavior, which part is wrong? this is the two negatives making a positive, a bit of math, again. It is obvious once we eliminate the god, that both are negative. Both the doing and believing are just wrong.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/alethianworldview/2016/05/07/the-name-is-not-the-problem/
Socrates got many things right. One was "man does not do wrong things against his will" or the like. There are so many similar quotes that finding the best is just an effort. It is all about always doing good, not just thinking that we are doing good.
Plato's account of the trial, 28a: he ought only to consider whether in doing anything he is doing right or wrong — acting the part of a good man or a bad.
So if someone tells us to do something, and also represents god, and we believe in god, we are likely to do it. God was likely created to control the masses. Created by evil or good people, but either way it was for control. It is still being used for control today. By telling someone it is good to follow the direction of god and god directs what we know to be evil behavior, which part is wrong? this is the two negatives making a positive, a bit of math, again. It is obvious once we eliminate the god, that both are negative. Both the doing and believing are just wrong.
Tuesday, May 3, 2016
Self Evident
Somethings are just self evident.... after we recognize them or articulate the concept. Every new generation must learn the same old lessons... well duh, we start out knowing nothing and need to learn everything. And there is the problem. Some thing we were taught are just wrong. Religions. And once we take a good look we realize this... self evident truth. Duh. Now what?
There is an old saying that before enlightenment the monk chops wood and draws water. And after enlightenment the monk chops wood and draws water. Nothing physically is different after the realization... the change of internal knowledge. So what does one do with this new self evident knowledge. Some try to spread the new knowledge, some try to understand the conversion process to help lead other across divide, some try to create and new religion or a way of thinking, of belief so that our automatic mental processes can be consistent, and some continue on, in ways that are just as before. Making progress is not assured, sometimes we need to clean our own thinking first. "Is the vessel we put this new knowledge into clean?" (after Epictetus.)
Some people think it is abuse to teach children or to indoctrinate children into religions. But the issue is not that simple, for along with the false, there is considerable truth. Society, social aspects of community, virtues of good character and good behavior also frequently taught along with religion. What is needed is religious behavior without the god stuff and the religion. Everything should be questioned, and tested, and only that which can be proven true or can be shown as self evident should be passed on to the next generation. Self evident must be logical, and should always be shown to be true. But wait, the Stoics said that virtue is the only good because virtue is always good, that is even the definition of virtue, and yet human virtues stop being virtues if carried to extremes. Even charity can go to far, for example, parents that give away to the point of being poor, rather than look after their own children. Giving to churches has long been a problem for some families, where one person gives more than her own income. It is no better to give to a church than to be a gambler or drug addict, or a drunk. These are still compulsions, not rational behaviors. (Brain Lock... may the JM Schwartz be with you.)
Aristotle said that true virtue lies between two opposites, or extremes, which lie to far beyond the center and become vices. So after examining the virtues, we must choose which virtues we will honor or follow. There are too many, so we pick, our body picks, it is chosen for us by our genes, our epic-genetics, our environment,... we have so little control... and we end up what we are... humans.
We are here, at this juncture, due to the choices/decisions/indecision/errors of our ancestors, we the too many, in an overpopulated world. Overpopulation occurs at the point that there are no shortages of people, but there are shortages of resources, including gainful employment. I was just in Northern Saskatchewan for a few days at a planting, where a 90 year old was returned to the the earth. Time travel into the pre-internet world is possible. There you can really see the overpopulation. Crowds, all on the government teats and we were a minority. Oh well, it is a bit of history gone.
Impermanence, non-self, suffering, illusions, delusions, expectations, no gods and death is final. All self evident concepts, once our mind lite on those ideas, but to get the mind to lite is a difficult issue. Oh well, how much will it all matter in a few years?
There is an old saying that before enlightenment the monk chops wood and draws water. And after enlightenment the monk chops wood and draws water. Nothing physically is different after the realization... the change of internal knowledge. So what does one do with this new self evident knowledge. Some try to spread the new knowledge, some try to understand the conversion process to help lead other across divide, some try to create and new religion or a way of thinking, of belief so that our automatic mental processes can be consistent, and some continue on, in ways that are just as before. Making progress is not assured, sometimes we need to clean our own thinking first. "Is the vessel we put this new knowledge into clean?" (after Epictetus.)
Some people think it is abuse to teach children or to indoctrinate children into religions. But the issue is not that simple, for along with the false, there is considerable truth. Society, social aspects of community, virtues of good character and good behavior also frequently taught along with religion. What is needed is religious behavior without the god stuff and the religion. Everything should be questioned, and tested, and only that which can be proven true or can be shown as self evident should be passed on to the next generation. Self evident must be logical, and should always be shown to be true. But wait, the Stoics said that virtue is the only good because virtue is always good, that is even the definition of virtue, and yet human virtues stop being virtues if carried to extremes. Even charity can go to far, for example, parents that give away to the point of being poor, rather than look after their own children. Giving to churches has long been a problem for some families, where one person gives more than her own income. It is no better to give to a church than to be a gambler or drug addict, or a drunk. These are still compulsions, not rational behaviors. (Brain Lock... may the JM Schwartz be with you.)
Aristotle said that true virtue lies between two opposites, or extremes, which lie to far beyond the center and become vices. So after examining the virtues, we must choose which virtues we will honor or follow. There are too many, so we pick, our body picks, it is chosen for us by our genes, our epic-genetics, our environment,... we have so little control... and we end up what we are... humans.
We are here, at this juncture, due to the choices/decisions/indecision/errors of our ancestors, we the too many, in an overpopulated world. Overpopulation occurs at the point that there are no shortages of people, but there are shortages of resources, including gainful employment. I was just in Northern Saskatchewan for a few days at a planting, where a 90 year old was returned to the the earth. Time travel into the pre-internet world is possible. There you can really see the overpopulation. Crowds, all on the government teats and we were a minority. Oh well, it is a bit of history gone.
Impermanence, non-self, suffering, illusions, delusions, expectations, no gods and death is final. All self evident concepts, once our mind lite on those ideas, but to get the mind to lite is a difficult issue. Oh well, how much will it all matter in a few years?
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